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ENGLISH http://chrysogelos.gr Fri, 17 Aug 2018 06:04:24 +0300 el-gr A Different Europe, a different Greece http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/3447-a-different-europe-a-different-greece http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/3447-a-different-europe-a-different-greece

 

SOUTH FOR GROWTH – 04/11/2013, Athens

Nikos Chrysogelos

Member of the European Parliament for Ecologist Greens/group of Greens / EFA

 

Europe has to put as its first priority the creation of sustainable and innovative jobs. It is unacceptable the current rate of the unemployment, especially youth unemployment. In the southern countries youth unemployment is very high, 60% in Greece for example, but below 10% in Germany. This demonstrates that we are living with an asymmetric, supranational, crisis. However, we are still trying to respond to it on national terms, without proper tools. Member States policies in south only make matters worse at the moment.

The correct way to respond to this is a community, European, response rather than just an intergovernmental response. Unfortunately, for such a big problem, we have ended up allocating too little money for too many years in a period of a

financial crisis and austerities measures which increase the unemployment. We are forcing upon "troika" countries cuts in education and social programs directed at the youth, when expenditure in education or supporting start up companies should not be treated the same as any other expenditure. The Commission, the European Central Bank, and the rest of the troika must take account of this rather than asking for more and more cuts. Real reforms towards social and ecological sustainability, investments in the frame of a Green Social New Deal rich of job and an  increase of the efficiency of the administration, with the participation of the citizens and the stakeholders, could be the alternative to the current austerity policies for the exit of the crisis.

The message "You must try harder and we'll make a small effort to help you try harder" is not what young people need to hear. It ignores the fact that there are simply not enough jobs, which is due to poor policy-making as well as young people's lack of a say in the policies affecting their lives. They need to hear that we support them and that we will reform policies to ensure that they too can benefit from decent employment and living standards: jobs, rights and opportunities.

But on 12 September MEPs sent mixed messages to young people across Europe suffering from the effects of the crisis. A generation in crisis came before MEPs in two reports, one on Youth Unemployment and another on the implementation of the Youth Strategy (2010-2012).

Seeing the report on Youth Unemployment as a step backward and ignoring the fact that there are simply not enough jobs, the Greens put forward their alternative. The Green concept was that Member States and the EU should go further and look at quality job creation for young people with full respect of their human rights and immediately end any measures which are counterproductive to youth employment. This was unfortunately rejected by MEPs, leaving the Youth Guarantee and other policies to stumble form the effects of chronic underfunding.

On the Youth Strategy, MEPs made clear the disastrous consequences of austerity measures in the fields of education, with Member States imposing cuts that hinder the development of long term routes out of the crisis.

The strategy was divided into 3 working cycles. The first cycle prioritised cooperation between Member States, with youth employability, entrepreneurship and the promotion of youth participation as the main topics. The new cycle (2013-2015) continues to focus on youth employment and is especially concerned with young people crossing the poverty line, an increasing reality for many.

Looking to the future, the challenges for the next cycle of the strategy consist mainly in making sure that all stakeholders participate in the general effort; youth associations and civil society must be included in decision making processes and also in working on the most difficult phase of the education-to-work transition.

Policies must be consistent and visionary to give the necessary push in fostering all types of transversal, social and creative skills. They must also integrate non formal and informal education into a general approach of "quality education scheme" and "quality apprenticeships".

We must not forget the role that youth has to play in a democratic and participative society, confronting extremism and radicalism and shaping their own future. In a nutshell the focus on young people must be a mainstreamed priority in all EU programmes under the future  European budget 2014-2020 (MFF).

On June 11th, the tvn co-presidents of The Greens in EP, DCB and RH sent a letter toi J.M.Barroso calling for a developing the social dimension of the EMU and strengthen the fundamentals of the monetary union which must be built on solid democratic grounds and the community method. They call on him, in close cooperation with the EP to put social and employment indicators at the heart of economic governance by revising the Macroeconomic Imbalances Procedure.

The Greens have been to the fore in advocating a binding Youth Guarantee to address the problem of youth unemployment. It is crucial that the EU put as a priority the fight against poverty and youth unemploymentunder its social programmes. This is a fight that the Greens will keep up in the European Parliament and during the European elections next year.

It is not only unemployment that contributes to social exclusion. More and more people have a  job but they can’t survive easily. Having a job is not enough anymore for combating the poverty.  We need also policies for reducing poverty. The good news is that the European Parliament and Council reached an agreement on 1st October 2013 on the European Social Fund for 2014-20. This agreement will ensure that measures to reduce poverty and tackle youth unemployment will get greater priority under the European Social Fund.

The European Parliament pushed for and ensured greater space for poverty reduction measures, both in terms of funding and in terms of content. 20% of ESF funding will have to be allocated to poverty reduction. In the future, the ESF will be able to support projects that tackle the root causes of poverty and not simply projects aimed at labour market participation. This is vital for ensuring European funds can help people affected by poverty, who are at a distance from the labour market, like children and the elderly.

We were also able to ensure that refugees and asylum seekers will once again be eligible for assistance through ESF programmes, in spite of opposition to this from the EU Commission and national governments. This will also help the overall goal of poverty reduction and build on positive experiences in some member states.

We urgently need to tackle youth unemployment nowand it must be done correctly. We need to immediately end these destructive austerity measures that are increasing youth unemployment and social exclusion; we need to focus on job creation but without forgetting the qualitative aspect of decent work and rights at work, especially in times of high crisis and especially for young people. And we cannot afford to exclude young stakeholders from the policy making that is affecting them: We need to give youth a key role in defining the strategies.

We need to empower young people to overcome the effects of the economic crisis. We strive for policies of, by and for young people that let them reclaim their future and guarantee their participation in our societies.

More generally speaking, the macroeconomic and financial program of the European Greens is the Green New Deal. We have developed it as an alternative for the current economic situation, given thebankruptcy of the current economic and financial system, which is characterised by its instability and imbalances, where repeated crises seem to be the only form of regulation. The current economic crisis is a perfect example of this instability and imbalances, therefore it reveals the failure of policies driven by what can be defined as neoliberal thinking.

The Green New Deal includes a sustainable economic policy that improves the quality of life, a redefinition of the European budgetary and monetary policy and a new global monetary system. This means that: First, the implementation of the Green New Deal calls for a new direction of economic policy aimed at reducing our carbon footprint and improving our quality of life. Redefining objectives of economic policy will bring forward new economic indicators to steer and evaluate policies. Second, the implementation of the Green New Deal will force a redefinition of budgetary and monetary policy at European level. Ultimately, the Green New Deal will hold even more promise in the context of a globally organised monetary system that helps guarantee of stability for northern and southern economies.

This Green New Deal is our comprehensive view on how we want to develop our society towards a sustainable social, financial and economic society. And it’s really a sustainable alternative.

 

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odysseas031@yahoo.com (Seas) ENGLISH Mon, 04 Nov 2013 15:54:20 +0200
Quality agriculture and quality food http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/3398-quality-agriculture http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/3398-quality-agriculture

INVITATION:

Dear friend,

I would like to invite you in a public hearing that I will organize in the European Parliament in Brussels on Friday 18 October at 10.00-14.00, under the title "Quality agriculture and quality food".

 

The public hearing will focus on best practices of sustainable agriculture and quality food distribution initiatives. The event will be realized under the occasion of a group visit of 30 stakeholders from Greece. 

 

Please consult the following programme and register by sending your full name, date of birth, address, nationality and passport or ID number to myrofora.kostidou@europarl.europa.eu by Monday 14 October at 14.00.

 

Public hearing: "Quality agriculture and quality food"

European Parliament Brussels, Room PHS 7C50

Friday 18 October, 10.00-14.00

 

PROGRAMME

 

10.00 - 10.10:Welcome speech Nikos CHRYSOGELOS, MEP GREENS/EFA

 

10.10 - 10.30:Caroline POTTIER, policy officer DG AGRI H3 European Commission:Quality and organic agriculture in Europe- Reflections on CAP reform.

 

10.30 - 10.50: Edouard ROUSSEAU, Chairman of the Copa-Cogeca Working Party on Organic Farming: The role of cooperative organic farming in European Agriculture.

 

10.50 - 11.10: Samuel FÉRET, ARC 2020: CAP Reform, good food and good farming campaign.

 

11.10 - 11.30: Irmi SALZER, Oebv Austria- European Coordination Via Campesina:Food sovereignty in Europe.

 

11.30 - 11.45: Q&A.

 

11.45- 12.00: Adamantia KOKKINAKI, Mediterranean Agronomic Institute of Chania, Mediterranean Plant Conservation Unit: Seed Banks, conservation of Mediterranean plant genetic resources. 

 

12.00 - 12.20: Philip DE BUCK (Slow Food Brussels): "How 25 Brussels restaurants are committed into Slow Food this year" and Marta MESSA (Slow Food International): "How Slow Food will defend sustainability in front of the EP".

 

12.20 - 12.40: Andrea CALORI, URGENCI International Network:Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) in Europe.

 

12.40 - 13.00: Maarten ROELS, Le Réseau des GASAP:Producer and consumer cooperation networks.

 

13.00 - 13.20: Stephan KAMPELMANN, Urban Ecology Centre Brussels:Urban Gardens in Brussels.

 

13.20 - 14.00: Q&A, discussion.

 

Working language: English.

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theodore@hotmail.com (Theo) ENGLISH Tue, 08 Oct 2013 19:54:01 +0300
Deep darkness is not an answer to crisis http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/3238-ert-en http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/3238-ert-en

              

Statement by Dany Cohn-Bendit, Rebecca Harms, Nick Chrysogelos on the shutdown of ERT and police state

 

The Greens/EFA Group in the European Parliament opposes the anti-democratic choices and practices of the Greek government on the issue of ERT state broadcasting station. The co-president of the Greens/EFA Danny Cohn-Bendit and Rebecca Harms will be in Greece in the coming days and will visit ERT’s facilities, meet with journalists, among other activities which are planned in collaboration with Nikos Chrysogelos, MEP with Ecologists Greens (Greek green party).

 

Danny Cohn-Bendit, Co-President of the Greens said:

"The authoritarian shutdown of public television and public radio station in Greece is causing growing concern. Reforms are needed, but nobody denies that there have been huge mistakes in the design and implementation of the fiscal consolidation programme. These mistakes led to misguided, authoritarian and spasmodic moves by the government and dissolution of the country’s social cohesion and economy. The European Commission and Troika must urgently redesign, in dialogue with the Greek government, social partners, civil society, regional government and Greek parliament, the fiscal consolidation program. Greece needs a fair and balanced plan to exit the crisis that will captivate people. Greece will change if the changes are fair, with the support and participation of the citizens, not against them. Public broadcasting is a European value"

 

Rebecca Harms, Co-President of the Greens said:

"The Greek government’s decision to send the police to shut down the public radio and TV frequencies in Athens is another alert on more and irresponsible measures in the crisis. The government could, if it was honestly pursuing ERT’s reform and reorganization, to agree on a joint project with employees, civil society and institutions, as it should be done in a modern European democracy to end the stranglehold of each government. ERT could play the role that corresponds to information, updating and viewing a diverse, dynamic and creative Greece that actually exists, information about the changes that need to be made in Europe."

 

Nick Chrysogelos MEP with Ecologists Greens, added:"The government chooses darkness instead of light, bring back  memories of the darker side of Greek history. In a European democratic country it is not possible for the state to kick 2,600 employees out in the streets without even talking with them, deprive the Greek citizens in their country, in Europe, the USA and Australia from the information by the public television. It is certain that the luminaries who planned shutdown of ERT "for a few days" have no idea of the legal, political and social problems created by this decision. We urge the European Commission and the government to reverse its decision. You should allow ERT to play the role that corresponds to real information, especially at this time of crisis: Information on political, social and environmental issues, to bring out the creative initiatives that exist in society, alternatives to accommodate the political dialogue, contribute to the strengthening of democracy, better exploit its huge and extremely valuable historical, cultural and informational material it possesses ".

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theodore@hotmail.com (Theo) ENGLISH Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:14:27 +0300
Public Hearing European Students demand secure funding for the Education and Youth programmes of 2014-2020 http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/2768-youth-programmes http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/2768-youth-programmes



Tuesday 13 November 2012, 15.30-17.00

European Parliament Brussels, A5E1



hosted by MEP NIKOS CHRYSOGELOS, GREENS/EFA


 

 



Speakers:



PETER MATJASIC, President of the European Youth Forum



KATHRIN RENNER, Vice President of AEGEE-Europe/European Students Forum



SIMONA PRONCKUTE, European Citizens Initiative Fraternite 2020



EMMANUEL ALFRANSEDE, President of the Erasmus Student Network



KARINA UFERT, European Students Union



Charing by: LUIS ALVARADO MARTINEZ, President of AEGEE-Europe



AEGEE (European Students' Forum) <http://aegee.org/> , ESN (Erasmus
Student Network) <http://esn.org/>  and ESU (European Student Union)
<http://www.esu-online.org/> , Europe's biggest student organisations,
representing more than 11 million students and 30.000 volunteers from
47 countries, call upon the European Union decision-makers for
adequate support to education and youth programmes in the budget
negotiations under the Multiannual Financial Framework 2014-2010.



As representative student organisations, we fully support the European
Commission proposal to increase funding for education, training, youth
and sport programmes to 19 billion EUR over 7 years. We believe that
it is the minimum amount required to achieve the objective of
sustainable growth and jobs, as agreed in the EU2020 Strategy.



Mobility, through voluntary activities for young people (under support
of Youth in Action) and students (under support of Erasmus and other
programmes) benefits individuals and society at large. Young
Europeans, who have an opportunity to be mobile, are:

·         More advanced in their personal and professional
development: Education as a whole and mobility in particular enable
personal growth and help individuals to develop their intercultural
communication, language skills and team work ability;

·         More supportive for European Integration: European
integration can only be achieved through personal ties, which have to
be experienced first-hand. Living, studying, working and volunteering
abroad are the best way to achieve this.

·         More skilled: Especially in the context of the current
economic crisis and its consequences, including high youth
unemployment and a lack of perspective for young people, we are
convinced that education as a long term investment, including
mobility, is a key factor in tackling the financial crisis. Learning
mobility, despite being highly beneficial for individuals, has also a
very positive impact on higher education providers, including teaching
and administrative staff.



We stress the importance of maintaining a sufficient level of funding
in the form of operational grants or administrative support for
organisations active in both the youth and education sector in order
to ensure the quality and resources for these organisations.



AEGEE, ESN and ESU strongly believe that the success of the current
Lifelong Learning programme in the area of youth and learning mobility
clearly show the benefits of allocating resources on the European
level. While stressing the continued need of investment in higher
education and youth also on a national, regional and local level, we
strongly endorse the proposed budget increase for the European
programme in education, training, youth and sport.

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theodore@hotmail.com (Theo) ENGLISH Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:57:44 +0200
Release of Turkish conscientious objector and human rights activist Halil Savda http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/2455-release-of-turkish-conscientious-objector-and-human-rights-activist-halil-savda http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/2455-release-of-turkish-conscientious-objector-and-human-rights-activist-halil-savda

 

On 24 January 2012, Halil Savda was arrested to serve a 100 days sentence for "alienating the people from the military", according to Article 318 of Turkish penal code, because on 1 August 2006 he publicly expressed his solidarity with Israeli conscientious objectors Itzik Shabbat and Amir Pastar, who were imprisoned for refusing to participate in Israel's war in Lebanon. In June 2008 Halil Savda received a sentence for this, which was upheld by the Supreme Court of Appeals in November 2010 and communicated to him in February 2011. This is not the first time that Halil Savda is imprisoned for reasons of conscience. He has also served a total of 17 months in military prison over a period of five years for his conscientious objection to military service in 2004. In 2008, the UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention came to the conclusion that these imprisonments were arbitrary (Opinion 16/2008). Halil Savda faces another six-month prison sentence for breaching Article 318, handed down in June 2010, which is being considered by the Supreme Court of Appeals, and because there are still other cases pending against him under Article 318. Considering that,
- The right to conscientious objection has been endorsed by the Council of Europe ever since 1967 when a first Resolution [1] on the topic was adopted by the Parliamentary Assembly. The recognition of this right later became a requirement for states seeking accession to the organisation.
- Recently the European Court of Human Rights recognised in the case Bayatyan v. Armenia that the right to conscientious objection was guaranteed by Article 9 of the European Convention, protecting freedom of thought, conscience and religion.
 
We ask the European Commission:
1. What will do to safeguard the rights of conscientious objectors in Turkey and the release of Halil Savda?
2. Considering EU acquis and the accession requirements of Turkey, will the Commission ask for the abolishment of Article 318 of the Turkish Penal Code because it violates the right to freedom of expression, guaranteed also by Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights and Article 19 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, to which Turkey is a state party.
 
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odysseas031@gmail.com (Odysseas) ENGLISH Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:09:20 +0300
Greens/EFA Co-Presidents' visit to Athens http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/2442-greens-efa-co-presidents-visit-to-athens http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/2442-greens-efa-co-presidents-visit-to-athens

In the context of the financial and Eurocrisis and after the second Greek bailout at the end of last month, aGreen delegation made up of Greens/EFA Co-Presidents Dany Cohn-Bendit and Rebecca Harms and Green MEP Nikos Chrysogelos held a series of high-level meetings in order to debate the latest developments of the situation and seek to further explore alternatives in Athens. As well as meeting 30 representatives of the Greek Greens, economic and social stakeholders, trade unions, SMEs and NGOs, the Green delegation also had constructive discussions with Prime Minister, Mr Lucas Papademos, Foreign Minister Stavros Dimas and the Governor of the Bank of Greece, Mr Georgios Provopoulos

 

 

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theodore@hotmail.com (Theo) ENGLISH Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:54:43 +0300
Article of Nikos Chrysogelos in the special edition of Heinrich Boell Stiftung http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/2967-article-in-the-special-edition-of-heinrich-boell-stiftung http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/2967-article-in-the-special-edition-of-heinrich-boell-stiftung


Greece finds itself in the centre of a global crisis, with euro zone having a common currency but not common economic and tax policies. In addition to Greece’s structural problems, the irrational construction of the euro zone contributed towards a drastic reduction of Greece’s production basis and a deterioration of its trade deficit. In Greece, the two dominant political parties did not proceed to much needed political, economic and social reforms, despite seeing the fast approaching dead-end. The leading political forces in Europe were not brave enough to move towards “more” Europe, while populist political forces viewed crisis as an opportunity for election gains. Thus, the Greek deficit and debt crisis, which in absolute numbers is comparatively negligible, escalated into a crisis threatening the euro zone and the entire European foundation.

This led to austerity measures to “rescue” Greece, resulting in unprecedented unemployment, huge salary cuts and disintegration of an already poor social infrastructure. Clearly this plan is unsustainable on a social, economic and political level, leading the country to social explosion.

Greece is in dire need of a well-planned reform based on European solidarity and a green turn of the economy. This reform should focus on administration reconstruction, personnel re-training and shifting from bureaucratic to social and environmental infrastructures. It should be accompanied by targeted limitation of expenses, and drastic measures against tax evasion and corruption in which, companies from other countries participated. This will pave the way for green investments which support innovation and create jobs especially for young people.
Rescuing, not disintegrating Greece would also be beneficial to Europe. The proposal of the German Greens, reflected also in their recent question to the Federal Parliament (29/9), constitutes a basis for a mutually beneficial cooperation between Greece and Germany.

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Article by Nikos Chrysogelos, published in the special edition of Heinrich Boell Stiftung (11/11/2011)

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odysseas031@gmail.com (Odysseas) ENGLISH Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:04:29 +0200
Demilitarized Nicosia - Demilitarized Cyprus action's news, photos and videos http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/476-demilitarized-nicosia-demilitarized-cyprus-actions-news-photos-and-videos http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/476-demilitarized-nicosia-demilitarized-cyprus-actions-news-photos-and-videos

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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odysseas031@gmail.com (Odysseas) ENGLISH Sun, 06 Feb 2011 00:00:00 +0200
Pollution of Topolniza River in Bulgaria by the firm Chelopech Mining http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/179-pollution-of-topolniza-river-in-bulgaria-by-the-firm-chelopech-mining http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/179-pollution-of-topolniza-river-in-bulgaria-by-the-firm-chelopech-mining
 

The river Topolniza in Sredna Gora Mountain, Bulgaria, is passing near the facilities of the gold mine Chelopech, which is owned by Dundee Precious Metals. Pollution of the river with nitrite nitrogen and sulphate ions coming from the tailing pond of the mine has been recorded and reported. The electrical conductivity of the waters coming from the tailing pond to the river and their pH amplitude are very high. This is sign for heavy metals in the waters. The ore of the mine contains high concentration of arsenic.

There are no cleaning facilities or mechanisms to remedy polluted waters passing from the tailing pond of the mine to the river Topolniza. There is only a fine of 1664 BGN monthly to be paid by the firm, which is imposed by the Ministry of Environment and Waters of Bulgaria. But the company since long time is paying the fine and is doing nothing to stop the pollution.
 
The polluted waters are going through Topolniza to Maritza river and then to Turkey and Greece.
 
What measures does the Commission consider to take in order to ensure the compliance of the Bulgarian Government with the Community Legislation (notably Directive 2006/21 on the management of waste from the extractive industries and the Water Framework Directive 2000/60), especially regarding the prevention of pollution of the Topolniza River which trough the and Maritza river flows to the Thracian lowland in Bulgaria and to Turkey and Greece?

20/01/2010

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nikos.chrysogelos@gmail.com (Super User) ENGLISH Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:16:48 +0200
Pollution of Topolniza River in Bulgaria by the firm Chelopech Mining http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/1824-pollution-of-topolniza-river-in-bulgaria-by-the-firm-chelopech-mining-1 http://chrysogelos.gr/index.php/english/item/1824-pollution-of-topolniza-river-in-bulgaria-by-the-firm-chelopech-mining-1
 

The river Topolniza in Sredna Gora Mountain, Bulgaria, is passing near the facilities of the gold mine Chelopech, which is owned by Dundee Precious Metals. Pollution of the river with nitrite nitrogen and sulphate ions coming from the tailing pond of the mine has been recorded and reported. The electrical conductivity of the waters coming from the tailing pond to the river and their pH amplitude are very high. This is sign for heavy metals in the waters. The ore of the mine contains high concentration of arsenic.

 

There are no cleaning facilities or mechanisms to remedy polluted waters passing from the tailing pond of the mine to the river Topolniza. There is only a fine of 1664 BGN monthly to be paid by the firm, which is imposed by the Ministry of Environment and Waters of Bulgaria. But the company since long time is paying the fine and is doing nothing to stop the pollution.
 
The polluted waters are going through Topolniza to Maritza river and then to Turkey and Greece.
 
What measures does the Commission consider to take in order to ensure the compliance of the Bulgarian Government with the Community Legislation (notably Directive 2006/21 on the management of waste from the extractive industries and the Water Framework Directive 2000/60), especially regarding the prevention of pollution of the Topolniza River which trough the and Maritza river flows to the Thracian lowland in Bulgaria and to Turkey and Greece?

20/01/2010

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nikos.chrysogelos@gmail.com (Super User) ENGLISH Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:16:48 +0200